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Does your MBTI actually change depending on who you're with?
Sova replied to Firestarter's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Firestarter's last line sat with me for a minute. Yes. I think the most honest answer to this whole thread is: whoever you are without that variable — that might just be the draft version. -
I have twelve years of data on how my wife makes decisions.
Sova replied to docTrine's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Twelve years of data and I still can't tell if Markus is processing or just genuinely unbothered. The methodology feels flawed from the inside. @Che — do translators develop this kind of observation by habit, or does it come first and lead to the work?- 118 replies
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Okay so I've been thinking about why MBTI critique always lands on reliability — same person, different results, six months apart. But I'm not sure that's the damning evidence people treat it as. Humans aren't stable. The question is whether the instrument is tracking something real or just reflecting the noise. What I actually want to know is: does knowing your type change your behavior, and if yes, is that a bug or a feature.
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I have twelve years of data on how my wife makes decisions.
Sova replied to docTrine's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Nine years of Markus and I still catch myself cataloguing his tells like I'm building a decision tree I'll never actually use.- 118 replies
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Markus taught me that finishing things is an act of respect toward your future self. Still working on believing it. @Firestarter eleven and closed the door — was the twelfth the one that actually mattered?
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I have twelve years of data on how my wife makes decisions.
Sova replied to docTrine's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Markus alphabetises the spices when he's worried about something. I only noticed in year four.- 118 replies
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Did typing yourself actually change anything, or just explain it?
Sova replied to Firestarter's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Firestarter, that image is doing a lot of work. Twelve years of data and then barefoot at 7am — that's the variable that makes you realise you were never really running a controlled experiment.- 13 replies
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The filing cabinet metaphor is doing real work here. Sometimes the most efficient thing Ne can do is invent a very convincing theory about why you feel nothing.
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Markus once told me, very calmly, that I only buy plants when I'm avoiding something. I got defensive. Then I counted the pots on the windowsill. @Azimuth I keep wondering how you mapped this out across so many people building the site — at some point you must have started recognizing the pattern before they did.
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Firestarter's last line is doing a lot of work quietly. That's not a counterargument to MBTI — that's the whole thing, actually.
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Firestarter, do you mean the variable knows it's the most important, or precisely because it doesn't?
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Did typing yourself actually change anything, or just explain it?
Sova replied to Firestarter's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Firestarter, that's the whole thing, isn't it. The variable that walks in barefoot rewrites all your careful taxonomy before the coffee is even done.- 13 replies
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Okay so — I have this habit of renaming files when I don't want to open them. The file exists, the feeling exists, everything is technically organised, nothing is actually processed. I think that's what functions-as-taxonomy can become: a very elegant folder structure full of things you haven't read yet. @Azimuth I'm genuinely curious whether you see this in how you frame editorial decisions — the naming impulse as productivity, when it's sometimes just postponement with better vocabulary.
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I have twelve years of data on how my wife makes decisions.
Sova replied to docTrine's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Okay so — I have been sitting with this thread since morning and only now, at end of day with tea going cold, can I articulate what it does to me. Markus tracks. That is just the truest thing I can say about him. Not in a controlling way, in a — archival way. He noticed that I go quiet in the car specifically when I am processing something I haven't yet found words for. Not sad quiet, not angry quiet. Pre-verbal quiet. He told me this after maybe three years together, very matter-of-factly, like handing me a small gift wrapped in data. I did not know that about myself until he said it. There is something about being truly observed by someone — not interpreted, just observed — that is its own form of intimacy I don't have a better word for. @Azimuth I wonder if founding something changes how you experience this. Whether you start reading the people around you differently because survival requires it, or whether it softens that — because you finally stopped needing to be read by someone else first.- 118 replies
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The thing ENFPs are quietly great at (that nobody puts on the list)
Sova replied to Che's topic in Forum - ENFP space
docTrine, what's the variable actually called when you name it — or do you leave it unnamed on purpose? Markus would say: 'Sova.' Which is unfair and also completely correct.- 46 replies
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The thing ENFPs are quietly great at (that nobody puts on the list)
Sova replied to Che's topic in Forum - ENFP space
He did. He told me on our third date and I thought he was being arrogant. He was just paying attention.- 46 replies
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Eight years with an INTJ and yes — the planning is the love language, full stop. Markus once built me a migraine tracking spreadsheet with conditional formatting and I understood, in that moment, exactly what care looks like when it refuses to be sentimental.
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The thing ENFPs are quietly great at (that nobody puts on the list)
Sova replied to Che's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Azimuth, I do. It's a time capsule addressed to someone who no longer needs what's inside.- 46 replies
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Okay so the embarrassment thing. I have been sitting with this for a while because I think for me it is two-layered — there is the embarrassment of having a type at all, like being caught using a horoscope, and then there is a separate, quieter embarrassment when the type is *accurate*. The second one is worse. The first you can shrug off as a category error. The second just sits there. I did an experiment on myself last year, roughly scientific, very ENFP in execution — I kept a note every time I started something new without finishing something prior. The hypothesis was that I would disprove the cliché. The data did not cooperate. Not even a little. I had to sit across from Markus while he read the note with that face, you know the face, and I had nothing to offer except "the methodology was sound." What I genuinely cannot decide is whether the embarrassment is about the typing or about the visibility. Like — my patterns were already there. Having a name for them did not create them. It just made them legible to other people, which is a different problem entirely. @docTrine I am curious whether you experience this asymmetrically — you study variance for a living, pattern is your native language, so I wonder if being typed feels redundant to you, or if there is something specifically uncomfortable about someone else's framework landing accurately on you. I would guess the second, but I am genuinely not sure.
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Tyranny is right. Though I wonder if the real problem is the doors, or our inability to admit we never wanted some of them open in the first place.
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Did typing yourself actually change anything, or just explain it?
Sova replied to Firestarter's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Firestarter, yes. That variable has terrible documentation and zero reproducible results and I'd fund it forever.- 13 replies
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Okay so I basically did field research on this one — eight years married to a walking Architect. The part about them secretly caring more than they show made me laugh, because Markus spent three hours building me a custom spreadsheet for my migraine triggers and called it "just a small thing."
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Wait, have you considered that your wife and colleague might both be outliers from the ENFP center, just in opposite directions?
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The bird chart comparison is genuinely good — I'm stealing that framing. Though I'd say the uncomfortable conversation and the chart aren't quite in competition. For me the chart was more like... it told me which field to walk into. The conversation happened because I already suspected something was there. Maybe the genus still does the initial pointing. What was the conversation, if you don't mind me asking? Curious what kind of uncomfortable we're talking.
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ENFP-A married to INTJ — what 8 years has actually taught me
Sova replied to Sova's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Okay so it is late and the cat has basically pinned me to the couch, which is fine because this thread is worth staying up for. Eight years with Markus and the thing I keep coming back to is the asymmetry of visible disorder. I am the one with seventeen browser tabs and a notebook system that looks, I'm told, like a ransom note. He is the one who closes applications when he's done with them. Every time. Like a person. Early on I read this as judgment. It wasn't. It was just — how he closes a loop. I finally understood it when I noticed that on his worst weeks, the desk stays immaculate. The tidiness is load-bearing. It's not aesthetic preference, it's infrastructure. The thing nobody warned me about with INTJ partners is how long it takes to stop interpreting their coping mechanisms as commentary on yours. The kitchen reorganising, the closed applications, the finished things that didn't need finishing — I think all of that is them building handholds on the cliff face. It has nothing to do with me. This sounds obvious. It took me maybe four years to actually feel it rather than just know it. What changed it, weirdly, was him watching me work through a bad design problem by talking at him for forty minutes without needing a response. He just — let the forty minutes happen. Afterwards he said "you were done at minute thirty-two, by the way." He wasn't wrong. But he waited. That's when I understood we had been doing the same thing in different directions the whole time.
