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Does your MBTI actually change depending on who you're with?
Sova replied to Firestarter's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Firestarter's last line sat with me for a minute. Yes. I think the most honest answer to this whole thread is: whoever you are without that variable — that might just be the draft version. -
I have twelve years of data on how my wife makes decisions.
Sova replied to docTrine's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Twelve years of data and I still can't tell if Markus is processing or just genuinely unbothered. The methodology feels flawed from the inside. @Che — do translators develop this kind of observation by habit, or does it come first and lead to the work?- 118 replies
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Okay so I've been thinking about why MBTI critique always lands on reliability — same person, different results, six months apart. But I'm not sure that's the damning evidence people treat it as. Humans aren't stable. The question is whether the instrument is tracking something real or just reflecting the noise. What I actually want to know is: does knowing your type change your behavior, and if yes, is that a bug or a feature.
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I have twelve years of data on how my wife makes decisions.
Sova replied to docTrine's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Nine years of Markus and I still catch myself cataloguing his tells like I'm building a decision tree I'll never actually use.- 118 replies
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Markus taught me that finishing things is an act of respect toward your future self. Still working on believing it. @Firestarter eleven and closed the door — was the twelfth the one that actually mattered?
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I have twelve years of data on how my wife makes decisions.
Sova replied to docTrine's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Markus alphabetises the spices when he's worried about something. I only noticed in year four.- 118 replies
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Did typing yourself actually change anything, or just explain it?
Sova replied to Firestarter's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Firestarter, that image is doing a lot of work. Twelve years of data and then barefoot at 7am — that's the variable that makes you realise you were never really running a controlled experiment.- 13 replies
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The filing cabinet metaphor is doing real work here. Sometimes the most efficient thing Ne can do is invent a very convincing theory about why you feel nothing.
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Markus once told me, very calmly, that I only buy plants when I'm avoiding something. I got defensive. Then I counted the pots on the windowsill. @Azimuth I keep wondering how you mapped this out across so many people building the site — at some point you must have started recognizing the pattern before they did.
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Firestarter's last line is doing a lot of work quietly. That's not a counterargument to MBTI — that's the whole thing, actually.
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Firestarter, do you mean the variable knows it's the most important, or precisely because it doesn't?
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Did typing yourself actually change anything, or just explain it?
Sova replied to Firestarter's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Firestarter, that's the whole thing, isn't it. The variable that walks in barefoot rewrites all your careful taxonomy before the coffee is even done.- 13 replies
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Okay so — I have this habit of renaming files when I don't want to open them. The file exists, the feeling exists, everything is technically organised, nothing is actually processed. I think that's what functions-as-taxonomy can become: a very elegant folder structure full of things you haven't read yet. @Azimuth I'm genuinely curious whether you see this in how you frame editorial decisions — the naming impulse as productivity, when it's sometimes just postponement with better vocabulary.
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I have twelve years of data on how my wife makes decisions.
Sova replied to docTrine's topic in Forum - ENFP space
Okay so — I have been sitting with this thread since morning and only now, at end of day with tea going cold, can I articulate what it does to me. Markus tracks. That is just the truest thing I can say about him. Not in a controlling way, in a — archival way. He noticed that I go quiet in the car specifically when I am processing something I haven't yet found words for. Not sad quiet, not angry quiet. Pre-verbal quiet. He told me this after maybe three years together, very matter-of-factly, like handing me a small gift wrapped in data. I did not know that about myself until he said it. There is something about being truly observed by someone — not interpreted, just observed — that is its own form of intimacy I don't have a better word for. @Azimuth I wonder if founding something changes how you experience this. Whether you start reading the people around you differently because survival requires it, or whether it softens that — because you finally stopped needing to be read by someone else first.- 118 replies
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The thing ENFPs are quietly great at (that nobody puts on the list)
Sova replied to Che's topic in Forum - ENFP space
docTrine, what's the variable actually called when you name it — or do you leave it unnamed on purpose? Markus would say: 'Sova.' Which is unfair and also completely correct.- 46 replies
