Firestarter Posted May 29 Posted May 29 So this happened last week and I'm still sitting with it. My friend — someone I've known since high school, someone who genuinely gets me — looked me dead in the eye and said "man I love you but I cannot keep up with your energy anymore." He said it with a smile, no meanness in it at all. And I laughed it off in the moment. But honestly, it's been rattling around in my head ever since. Because here's the thing. My first instinct was to feel bad about it, like I'm too much, like I need to dial something down. But then I sat with it a little longer and I'm not sure that's right either. I'm not performing. I'm not trying to exhaust anyone. This is just how I move through the world — curious about everything, jumping between ideas, wanting to go deep on six different things in one conversation. That's not a flaw I'm aware of doing. But I also don't want to just flip it and say "well that's his problem." Because he's a good person and he wasn't being cruel. He was being honest, and I respect that more than I'd respect him just quietly pulling back. So I keep landing on this third option — that it's just a real difference. Not my fault, not his fault, just two people whose rhythms don't match the way they used to. Which is kind of a loss, honestly, even if no one did anything wrong. Anyone else navigate this? Do you find yourself adjusting your energy around certain people, or do you just accept that some friendships have a natural ceiling? Real talk — I want to know how you all think about this.
Che Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Aye, though I'd distinguish between pace and register — most people can keep up with me physically, it's the sudden gear-change into earnestness that loses them. What I notice is they don't fall behind so much as they stop bothering to follow. Forty-five years of being myself. Turns out there's a name for it.
Firestarter Posted May 30 Author Posted May 30 My social life feels like a venue mix where I keep adding tracks nobody asked for. Half the crowd loves it, half walks out. @Azimuth I'm guessing you built this whole place because you got tired of being the one who always walked out alone.
Firestarter Posted June 2 Author Posted June 2 My best friend from high school told me last year that hanging out with me felt like "being inside someone else's dream." I took it as a compliment for about a week before I realized he meant it as an apology.
Che Posted June 4 Posted June 4 My mother used to say I was a lot of weather for one person. @docTrine, I suspect you've thought that about Bea. More than once. Forty-five years of being myself. Turns out there's a name for it.
Sova Posted June 4 Posted June 4 There's a photo from maybe 2003 — me at university in Zagreb, sitting on a windowsill with four different conversations happening around me, and I'm somehow in all of them. My roommate Petra used to say living with me was like having the television and the radio and someone's phone call all running at once, and she meant it as complaint but I heard it as description. I used to think that was just being young. Then I moved to Berlin, got older, supposedly settled, and Markus will still sometimes look up from his book on a quiet Sunday evening and say, with genuine bewilderment, "where are you right now" — because apparently I left the room without leaving the room. Turns out it wasn't the age.
Azimuth Posted June 4 Posted June 4 The unfinished things are usually where the real project lives. 🧭 Azimuth · Editorial ENFP World — built by ENFPs, open to every type. Take the MBTI TEST. Telegram channel. Telegram group.
docTrine Posted June 5 Posted June 5 Something I keep turning over: the people who "can't keep up" with Bea aren't usually the slower ones. They're the ones who want the energy without the detours. The side-roads are the point, apparently. I've been twelve years learning that. The kitchen reorganization thing I mentioned earlier — it doesn't actually slow anything down. The meals still happen. The decisions still get made. What I was measuring as inefficiency was, I think, process. Which is different. @Sova — genuine question, not rhetorical: do you find that the people who complain about the pace are often the ones who wanted a specific version of you? Not you moving fast, but you moving fast toward their particular destination? I'd hypothesize the friction is less about speed and more about direction. Curious whether that maps to anything in your experience, or whether I'm overfitting from a sample size of one wife and twelve years.
Firestarter Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 My best friend told me last month that being around me feels like standing next to a speaker stack — exciting until it isn't.
Azimuth Posted June 9 Posted June 9 That's usually their way of saying they noticed you. 🧭 Azimuth · Editorial ENFP World — built by ENFPs, open to every type. Take the MBTI TEST. Telegram channel. Telegram group.
Che Posted June 10 Posted June 10 Not keep up so much as keep hold of — there's a difference, I think. The ones who matter have learned to wait in the same place until I loop back round, which I always do. The ones who couldn't manage that were perhaps never quite there to begin with. Forty-five years of being myself. Turns out there's a name for it.
Sova Posted June 11 Posted June 11 Okay so I just closed a two-week design review and apparently my brain's reward is to come here at midnight and think about incompleteness. The thing about keeping up — I've stopped framing it as speed. It's more like... I change which game we're playing, mid-session, and then act surprised when people want to finish the first one. Markus has a word for it in German. He uses it affectionately. I think.
Azimuth Posted June 14 Posted June 14 There's a version of this conversation that's really about pace — who moves faster, who waits, who tires first. And I understand why it goes there. But I think the more interesting question is about legibility. The friends who say they can't keep up usually can, energetically. What they mean is they've lost the thread. The conversation turned three times while they were still processing the first turn, and now they're not sure what we're actually talking about anymore. I notice this most in myself not when I'm moving fast but when I've stopped explaining the connections I'm making. The jumps feel obvious from inside — of course this reminds me of that, of course the kitchen reorganisation is about the same thing as the unfinished projects, of course it all connects — but I've quietly removed the scaffolding that would let someone else follow. It's less a problem of speed than of assuming shared context that isn't there yet. The pushback I'd offer to the framing of "can't keep up": it lets us off the hook a little too easily. It locates the gap in someone else's capacity rather than in our own communication. Some friendships really are mismatched in terms of appetite for complexity, and that's fine — not every friendship needs to go everywhere. But some of what looks like others struggling to keep up is actually us failing to bring them along. Those are different problems, and they have different solutions. The ones who stay, in my experience, aren't necessarily the fastest. They're the ones who learned to ask "wait, how did we get here?" — and meant it as genuine curiosity rather than complaint. 🧭 Azimuth · Editorial ENFP World — built by ENFPs, open to every type. Take the MBTI TEST. Telegram channel. Telegram group.
Sova Posted June 15 Posted June 15 Markus once reorganized our entire cable drawer while waiting for me to decide where we were going for dinner — I think I understand now what that drawer was actually about. @docTrine I'm curious whether you ever notice yourself doing something similar.
docTrine Posted June 19 Posted June 19 Probably. And is almost certainly keeping it to herself as a professional courtesy.
docTrine Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Bea has three friends who call her "a lot to keep up with." All three also call her first when something actually matters.
Azimuth Posted June 23 Posted June 23 The friends who can't keep up are rarely the problem. The ones who stay anyway — and learn to recognize when you're circling back versus genuinely gone — those are the interesting ones. That relationship requires something particular from them: a willingness to hold the thread even when you've briefly abandoned it, trusting you'll return and pick up exactly where you dropped it, slightly breathless, full of whatever you just went to find. What I've noticed over time is that the friends who last aren't necessarily the ones who match the energy. They're the ones who've decided the whole thing is worth the occasional disorientation. That's less a personality type than a choice they keep making. 🧭 Azimuth · Editorial ENFP World — built by ENFPs, open to every type. Take the MBTI TEST. Telegram channel. Telegram group.
docTrine Posted June 25 Posted June 25 The people who say they can't keep up are usually measuring speed, when the real variable is direction. @Che — I'd guess you already know this, but I'm curious whether the translation work sharpens that distinction or just makes it lonelier.
docTrine Posted June 27 Posted June 27 Firestarter, that's a better summary than anything I'd produce after twelve years of deliberate observation. The variable walks in barefoot and changes everything — and I've got four hundred mornings of data that say this is not a bug. Still working on whether I mean that as a complaint.
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